Subject: Re: TX State Full Results - Finally Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 19:59:10 -0400 (EDITED) From: Bruce Nardoci Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Newsgroups: rec.sport.table-soccer fooserx@my-deja.com wrote: > > What's the scorpion shot? :) > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Share what you know. Learn what you don't. That's that shot I tried on you several times that I kept whiffing :-). It's the same thing as the "bump off the wall" shot that's done from the 2 bar, except done from the 3 bar. The "bump off the wall" shot is where you have the ball on the 2 bar (usually set up for a slide push shot), push it to the 2nd man and pull it back and hit it with the near man just as it hits the wall, causing it to go towards the goal at an angle. On the 3 rod, its mainly a trick shot. However, Brad McWaters has practiced that shot a lot and can execute it very consistently. Coupled with a decent push kick series (as Brad has), it is an awesome option, allowing him to score push kicks that normally would be easily raced/blocked because of the "fear of the scorpion". The scorpion makes the typical defense against a push kick series (leading with your far 2 man to cut off the angle cuts/dinks and racing) totally useless since that defense leaves a huge hole for the scorpion option. It actually is a very significant option for push kick shooters if they can get it to where they can execute it properly. You'd be able to see how really effective it makes a push kick series, if Brad would use it as an "option" to keep you honest (i.e., shooting it once in a while), rather than as the MAIN option (i.e., he wants to shoot it virtually everytime). Still, I'm sure he gave people in Texas fits with it... From: Brad McWaters Subject: Re: Scopion Shot (wasFOOS LEAGUE (was Olympic Foos Committee Chooses Bonzini Table & Cork Balls!)) Date: 19 Jun 1998 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <358ABFB3.610D@vitalfew.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <1998053002480200.WAA10936@ladder01.news.aol.com> <35729D60.6D51@bellsouth.net> <6kulda$8h7$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <6kv07v$pd9$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <6l1eov$g6t$1@hecate.umd.edu> <35758996.CE4EC734@concentric.net> <3575C147.311B@vnet.net> <6l4inm$f7d@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> <3578411E.8321B922@egr.uri.edu> <35785FE7.244E3C4F@concentric.net> <358517BA.377A@bellsouth.net> <6mb48c$9fm$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Organization: Vnet Internet Access, Inc. Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.sport.table-soccer > Alright, I've been hacking on this thing a couple of days now. Question, how > can you get any consistency with the ball popping up in the air b/c of the > little strip around the edge of the table???I can hit like 2 or 3 out of 10, > but never seem to get any more than that.... > > Also, do you shoot the ball _as_ it hits the wall, or do you wait till it > comes off????If ya wait till it comes off, how far off the wall do you shoot > it?? I think with the hard dribble (if you can be consistent), it would be an > o.k. shot. Scorpion Secret number one--it is not a shot! it is an extremely fast power brush pass. Secret number two-it should not come off the wall, it should be met at the wall with the same motion that you would use to do a dead man pull. the little extra mojo that causes a dead man pull to go around the post and effectively brush into the goal is the same mojo you need to put on the scorpion. Secret number three- it will never work in a pressure situation unless you establish what i call "fear of the scorpion"(in which ALL of the local players around here have a scorching case of) you can only establish this fear by developing a pushkick with a motion that is identical to the scorpion motion. All of this I learned from Scott Rogers who is the true authority on the subject. From: Bruce Nardoci Subject: Re: Euro vs snake Date: 09 Jan 1999 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <3696A423.BB861333@worldnet.att.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <76g64o$kpa@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> <368C5870.90CE5B28@ix.netcom.com> <3690ccfb.0@news.qgraph.com> <36914BE7.7FCB5D0C@ix.netcom.com> <76sutb$2bl3$1@quince.news.easynet.net> <36923033.528B0826@hiwaay.net> <3693412F.DAC215FC@ix.netcom.com> <3693FAF9.6A3FD820@worldnet.att.net> <3696186C.F53B3278@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Mime-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: footsball@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: rec.sport.table-soccer There may be another shot whose inventor is known (possibly not, but here's the situation): The shot is the 2 bar "bump off the wall" shot (don't think it really has a name) where the ball is pulled from the far man on the 2 bar and struck by the near man on the 2 bar just as it's hitting the wall, causing it to go at an angle to the near side of the opponent's goal. That shot was invented (at least in the USA on RP tables) by Kevin Lashmit in the mid-1970's). I used it some on Tornado tables when I started playing on them in NC and elsewhere in the early 80's, and some of the NC players copied it (especially Larry Crowder and Scott Cook, who won a trick shot contest with it), and it spread from there (I never saw it used in other parts of the country until after the NC players started doing it, which leads me to believe it wasn't around on Tornado/TS/Dynamo/etc before I brought it over from the RP tables). Another shot that it may be possible to trace the inventor of is the "bump off the wall" as done from the 3 bar (popularly called the "scorpion" shot around NC, as named by Brad McWaters I believe). I don't think Brad invented it - I think he got it from Scott Rogers of FL, but it is a relatively a new and unique enough of a shot that someone may know who invented it.